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Well I do not go looking to start crap. But it seems some others have nothing better to do than to troll around the internet being stupid. Thus this place being old west like one must be packing. I do not start crap, but I will finish it.
So here are my collection of forum style "talk to the hand!"
What would Mr. Spock do? He used shields and weapons too, grin.
We know the Star Trek series, and can quote “beam me up Scotty” “Resistance is futile” “make it so” Just for fun and to relax from all the political debate, but yet be who we are and enjoy politics, and the “other camps of thought.” I thought it would be entertaining to look at Star Trek from political perspective of Liberal, Conservative, & Libertarian. My quotes may not be word for word accurate.
Star Trek as a “Liberal” Show.
“Earth is a paradise, we have eliminated hunger, homelessness, & disease”...Sisko
“I love you, I do not care what they think you are”…Rikker (figures huh lol)
“Men of peace usually are brave”.. Spock
“We don’t use money in the 23rd century”…. Kirk
“Torture is outdated and ineffective, no real civilization uses it”…Picard
“Keep your prejudices in your quarters mister” Kirk
"DO not go beyond warp 5, we are destroying the universe" A Scientist
The technology has reached a point that people no longer need money, everyone can pursue their passion your survival is a given. Arts and culture are alive and well. So well that even Klingons run around quoting Shakespeare.Society does not judge Black, White, Asian, Blue, Red, Green, Homosexual, Straight, in between.People are judged by their character not color of skin. Scientist travel and study those strange new worlds, and new life forms. Medical care is free, as is shelter, and food, just walk to a computer and ask for it. Liberal Paradise!
Star Trek as a “Conservative” show
“You can’t let some machine take our jobs, there are certain things we must do to remain men” Kirk
“Excellence is expected, anything beyond that does you credit” Picard
“You are a coward, and you have no honor, get out of my sight”Worf
“I don’t wage war with computers, I wage the real thing” Kirk
“The honor is to serve” “Your service honors us” Picard and Serek greeting each other
“As long as you wear that uniform, you word is good” Sisko
“We all ask a father, a brother, a god, why am I here?” Spock
“You will just exist living on the charity of others” Odo
A free lunch did not build an advanced star fleet.Not every race is happy to see star fleet, and some aliens find it something useful to consume and conquer.Smiling happy aliens would make for a very boring show, and is not reality.Star Fleet has a strict code of honor and ethics, those that break them, even with the best intentions are not treated with respect.Earth might have some fat lazies remaining, but on a ship you can escape all that.In spite of all the technology and social tolerance, respect is still gotten the old fashioned way, they earn it.Buzzwords like discipline, service and honor are alive and well in the future as seen by Star Trek.
Star Trek as a Libertarian show.
“Our culture is based on freedom and self determination” Picard
“No disrespect, but my career choices are my own business” Rikker
“We are here to ascertain my right to choose” Data
“I will work with you, and fight for you, but I don’t like you” Worf
Star Treks prime directive of no interference is a pure Libertarian statement.Based on the old west, Star trek is a western with space ships, a wagon train to the stars. Often having to improvise as you go to survive, day by day.Civil rights are often the main topic of the show. Does this race have the right to do this that or the other, does the individual have the right to do or say certain things? Often self-restraint and ethics are the only law for light years. Star Trek asserts that all discipline is internal, not out side force can truly make you do anything. The other sides right to law and due process stop Star Fleet from blowing the other guys to kingdom come. Nobody really cares about your race, preference, or even quirks, as long as you contribute, and be the best of your chosen path.
So which do you think Star Trek is? If you like the show you might claim it, if not give it to another political belief.
I am certain the show was for all people, since few people fall purely into any one stereotype.A liberal has honor and can fight fiercely for a just cause. Conservatives enjoy arts and culture, and despise racism.
Star trek is what our nation (planet) should be about. We all work together to improve the quality of life. We will never agree on how to get there, but if we play/fight fair at least you are honorable at all times. The odd quirks and point of view of someone from a place you dislike might just save you one day.
We need the opposing points of view to stop any political or social monopoly. That is what brings back oppression and the dark ages. Losing our right to say no, once you cannot say no, you are a slave. No matter how friendly or benign the monopoly force claims to be, the truth of it is you are a slave. Saying no has cost those brave few alot, but we thank them for it.
Harmless beliefs one does not agree with are trivial so long as no force is used. Becoming advanced beings will mean picking battles wisely knowing that in the end the truth will show beyond all doubt. Truth is something we all need, and can learn from, Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian.
As most people that know me understand that I am not religious. However I also do not smoke, do dope, and rarely drink. I say if what you do do don't do does not bother anyone else what does it matter?
Speaking as a secularist, I was actually upset over the court case and challenging God in the pledge of allegiance. And for an atheists to challenge it?? It would make more sense of a Buddhist or the like to be upset over "God" rather than an atheists. I do not feel it is shoving God down your throat because God is a personal choice and the relationship people have with God is an individual thing. One can simply replace God with a word they feel fits better. One nation under law or something like that. Those that want God can have, one that don't, don't have to either.
I often look at religion like this. I do celebrate Christmas. When I hang up a picture of Santa Claus do I literally think a fat man in a red suit will actually fly around delivering presents? Well no, but it represents giving, family, happiness, self reflection. Same qualities people seek in their religion and relationship with God.
The taking the Ten Commandments out of the courthouse. To an atheists would it not be the same as a picture of the Tooth Fairy in the court house? Besides only about 40% of the commandments apply to court. Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not commit adultery, & thou shalt not bear false witness. If people did not do those things the court would not be very busy anyway, not much need of a court house to begin with.
Here in Boise we have a big light up cross over looking the city. Some atheist from Chicago filed a suit over it. That really ticked me off. He did not even live here, and again as an atheist why would it matter. We all share the city, and a vast majority what the cross there. They look up on a bad day and see the light both literally and figuratively. I am happy they found their religion. People need peace, joy, and hope, and the others of the city are entitled to it. It is not a Nazi swastika or a bird flipping finger. It far from offends me, and actually the door to door missionaries have bothered me alot More than a light up cross.
Prayer in school and Intelligent Design are separate issues from the PoA. Others saying God in PoA is not a prayer, but an affirmation of beliefs of principles of our nation. Those who want God in it, say it as such, those that don't, don't. Neither side needs to force or make a huge deal about something simple. Freedom of religion is freedom from it, but liek free speech, you do nto have a right to be unoffended. The fools who go looking to be offended to be on the news and make dumb drama, a different story fro a different day.
I hope our country goes back to a live and let live philosophy.
I know sometimes I really go off on the school system. I do respect most teachers, I really do. It is the public politics that torque me off to no end. Some mouthpieces out there are more worried about their agenda being taught to kids over any useful life skills. To sound JFK like, it is not what our young people should be doing, it is what are we doing for our young people?
When people who are clueless to the demographics and dynamics of your particular school set policy the only logical conclusion is disaster. No child left behind looks great on paper, a looks to make school responsible. Until you realize that schools are not given the resources to make these things happen. Then there is the wonderful fact of non-English speaking students.Educated children do not appear out of thin air anymore than money does.
What ever happened to teaching kids useful things? Like how to manage a bank account? How an auto loan and home mortgage works.What types of loans there are and how the interest works, and how you can save or get shafted for thousands of dollars? Math, science, history, and how government works?The fact the founding fathers were not perfect, but they did demonstrate that with out rights to life, liberty & property, one is not free.
Seems more attention and lip service is given to weather Jonnie comes from a daddy/daddy home or a mommy/mommy home rather than just living and learning. Jonnie should not be harassed about it, but beyond that, who cares? Have qualified people ready if Jonnie has questions, but beyond that, if Jonnie has no issues, let’s not make any for him. There are not many life skill considerations given to single parents, and that is far more common than homosexuality. Sex is a part of life yes, who you are screwing is as much of a choice as your career, religion, political beliefs, ie another set of choices one will have to make, and will be part of who you are.However we do not need to wig out over it, nor shove the ideals of the few down kids throats.
I wont even touch Creationism and Science. Luckily most people are rational and realize you cannot get into MIT with a creationism background, nor would someone going to theologian school spend a lot of time on physics (typically). So a majority of the people blend religion and science quite well.
The right to believe in one or the other is personal choice, we should agree to disagree, and realize it is more important we all have the right to pursue those beliefs. The old quote “I disagree with what you say, but defend your right to say it.”Teaching kids to celebrate civil rights will help do away with all this politically correctness, racism, and other nonsense. Live and let live. Also free speech does not mean you do have a right to never be offended.Idiots get to speak out too, luckily the truth always comes to light.
You play exactly as you practice, so why not teach the kids what they need to reach their goals, and let them play at life until their “game time” comes?
I should have seen this coming, well actually I did. My son brought home a flyer asking about school uniforms.
They claim the positives are: Better learning climate Better discipline Better student safety Modesty standards Clothing label disputes
Do you support school uniforms?
Check YES or No
My Formal reply to the school: (Wow they actually had a comment section)
There is little evidence correlating, school uniforms and the asserted “positives” listed above.The climate of learning comes from parents, teachers, and wise policy makers.We would remove our children and relocate them to a non-uniform school.This makes home schooling and tax vouchers necessary for our family.It is unfortunate that uniforms are already decided on and this flyer is an attempted to mask the already made decision, and make it appear parents have a say in their children’s education.
What the (expletive!) Uniforms have nothing to do with quality of education, that would be something like, parents/educators doing their jobs. What the hell is this, Nazi Germany?
It is not so much the uniforms per say, it is the fact this whole thing is a ruse, they are running the gambit found here. http://www.ed.gov/updates/uniforms.html
That stupid manual from the US department of ed tells you how to buffalo the parents into this bullshit idea. They site zero scientific research, it is out of thin air correlations, and made up crap. Stupid (expletive) side step the procedures by government or administrators really really tick me off! BAAAH BAAAH I am a sheep let me just do what you say, why should I think for myself, it might inconvenience those in authority. And the divine right of those in authority cannot be questioned, so let me kiss that mighty ass! What next fences and people with guns? Boy I feel so safe now, the sheep are safely in the pasture. Baaa F-ing Baaa!
What the (expletive!) does government know about educating kids? Government simply wants parents to take all the expense and responsibility for the children, but give all the power to government!Nope does not work that way!(Expletive!) Politicians try to blame failure on the people, but pat themselves on the back for success. A dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t situation that is the definition of dysfunctional!
If I have to get two jobs so they can be schooled the way we find appropriate so be it! Those (expletive!) can go (expletive!)themselves(expletive!) in the(expletive!) bathroom(expletive!) (expletive!) (expletive!) (expletive!). I did not have children so they can fulfill some state agenda. So in short I do not support school uniforms, and my children will not attend a school that requires them.